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	<title>Comments on: Wine 2.0 &#038; Why We&#8217;re In Second Life</title>
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	<description>A blog about starting and building a family winery in the Russian River Valley</description>
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		<title>By: Macro bako</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2006/11/14/wine-20-why-were-in-second-life/#comment-27199</link>
		<dc:creator>Macro bako</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 11 May 2007 02:18:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hello hi honey</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hello hi honey</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2006/11/14/wine-20-why-were-in-second-life/#comment-5912</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>El Jefe,

Of course you're right. What I wrote was an insult to monkeys. What I was actually referring to was the quote from Jefferson Lister who said "not until a machine can write a sonnet or compose a concerto because of thoughts and emotions felt, and not by the chance fall of symbols, could we agree that machine equals brain."

I read somewhere that there are researchers working on virtual aromas. Something to the effect of hooking up a box to your computer that would be activated depending on the website you visit. Again though, how could anything ever replace the sheer bliss that is sipping wine in a tasting room crammed with other sweaty drunks demanding their next free taste? Or are those just the wineries I frequent? :P

I'll take you up on that glass tho!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>El Jefe,</p>
<p>Of course you&#8217;re right. What I wrote was an insult to monkeys. What I was actually referring to was the quote from Jefferson Lister who said &#8220;not until a machine can write a sonnet or compose a concerto because of thoughts and emotions felt, and not by the chance fall of symbols, could we agree that machine equals brain.&#8221;</p>
<p>I read somewhere that there are researchers working on virtual aromas. Something to the effect of hooking up a box to your computer that would be activated depending on the website you visit. Again though, how could anything ever replace the sheer bliss that is sipping wine in a tasting room crammed with other sweaty drunks demanding their next free taste? Or are those just the wineries I frequent? <img src='http://www.pinotblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ll take you up on that glass tho!</p>
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		<title>By: El Jefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 18 Nov 2006 00:30:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josho - you're just sad because you can't get any more *%#&#38;@! But I liked the echo effects!

The Banging Monkeys Writing Hamlet are a bit different than Artificial Intelligence, which is different than emulating sensory input. But perhaps you and I could enjoy this discussion sometime over a glass of the next vintage of *%#&#38;@! Non-virtually!

- j, who is also sad because he can't get any Capozzi Pinot! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josho - you&#8217;re just sad because you can&#8217;t get any more *%#&amp;@! But I liked the echo effects!</p>
<p>The Banging Monkeys Writing Hamlet are a bit different than Artificial Intelligence, which is different than emulating sensory input. But perhaps you and I could enjoy this discussion sometime over a glass of the next vintage of *%#&amp;@! Non-virtually!</p>
<p>- j, who is also sad because he can&#8217;t get any Capozzi Pinot! <img src='http://www.pinotblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 02:43:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mock me all you want El Jefe, but I have seen the fuuuture! And the future is fake, I mean 3D...erm ...Virtual online environments! :)

Seriously though, nothing will ever replace the human element or the experience of actually tasting a profoundly delicious wine. El Jefe is just acting all incredulous because his *%#&#038;@! is just such a wine.

As for artificial intelligence, I think that a machine will always fail the consciousness test. A monkey banging away incessantly on a typewriter for a millennia might someday randomly come up with something that passes for one of Shakespeare's sonnets, but it will never, ever produce Hamlet. 

Long story long, Second Life and what will follow will be extremely innocuous. Nothing to fear here. :0</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mock me all you want El Jefe, but I have seen the fuuuture! And the future is fake, I mean 3D&#8230;erm &#8230;Virtual online environments! <img src='http://www.pinotblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Seriously though, nothing will ever replace the human element or the experience of actually tasting a profoundly delicious wine. El Jefe is just acting all incredulous because his *%#&#038;@! is just such a wine.</p>
<p>As for artificial intelligence, I think that a machine will always fail the consciousness test. A monkey banging away incessantly on a typewriter for a millennia might someday randomly come up with something that passes for one of Shakespeare&#8217;s sonnets, but it will never, ever produce Hamlet. </p>
<p>Long story long, Second Life and what will follow will be extremely innocuous. Nothing to fear here. :0</p>
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		<title>By: El Jefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 01:05:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hi Jeff - I promise to try and be dorkier next time :)

If we keep this up we'll have to call this the Pinotbloggerbloggerforum...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hi Jeff - I promise to try and be dorkier next time <img src='http://www.pinotblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>If we keep this up we&#8217;ll have to call this the Pinotbloggerbloggerforum&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Jeff Lefevere</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jeff Lefevere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Nov 2006 00:24:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On my way out to California I read an article in Inc. Magazine on Second Life and some of the same nextgen things you touch on.  I have to admit, prior to that, I was viewing it as a gaming environment with a pretty good size customer base.  But, my eyes were opened to what the possibilities can be.  Kudos to you for blazing a trail.  I'm excited to check out your slice of the virtual world.

Regarding Wine 2.0, in general.  It was okay.  I would have preferred if it was more of a wine blog dorkfest (card carrying member), though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On my way out to California I read an article in Inc. Magazine on Second Life and some of the same nextgen things you touch on.  I have to admit, prior to that, I was viewing it as a gaming environment with a pretty good size customer base.  But, my eyes were opened to what the possibilities can be.  Kudos to you for blazing a trail.  I&#8217;m excited to check out your slice of the virtual world.</p>
<p>Regarding Wine 2.0, in general.  It was okay.  I would have preferred if it was more of a wine blog dorkfest (card carrying member), though.</p>
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		<title>By: El Jefe</title>
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		<dc:creator>El Jefe</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 23:42:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>So... if we could actually experience wine tasting in all of its sensory splendor within a Second Life type context, would we ever again want the real thing?

This question can of course be extended to other sensory experiences... and if so, would we continue to actually eat? To procreate?

As these technologies are perfected to the point that the virtual cannot be distinguished from reality (call it a Turbo Turing Test), there is potential to do both great good and great evil. I guess that's what is scary.

That's a lot of food for thought. I need to go find some wine for thought to pair with it...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So&#8230; if we could actually experience wine tasting in all of its sensory splendor within a Second Life type context, would we ever again want the real thing?</p>
<p>This question can of course be extended to other sensory experiences&#8230; and if so, would we continue to actually eat? To procreate?</p>
<p>As these technologies are perfected to the point that the virtual cannot be distinguished from reality (call it a Turbo Turing Test), there is potential to do both great good and great evil. I guess that&#8217;s what is scary.</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a lot of food for thought. I need to go find some wine for thought to pair with it&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:39:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sagi,

Thanks for the comment and for dropping by.

I hope it isn't too scary of a future. I'm not saying that some crazy virtual tasting room is going to replace our planned real one - like, ever. It's just another way to collaborate that is more like the actual 3D world we inhabit every day.

Great feedback tho - thanks!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sagi,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment and for dropping by.</p>
<p>I hope it isn&#8217;t too scary of a future. I&#8217;m not saying that some crazy virtual tasting room is going to replace our planned real one - like, ever. It&#8217;s just another way to collaborate that is more like the actual 3D world we inhabit every day.</p>
<p>Great feedback tho - thanks!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:11:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Jeff,

Great shots. I need to get up to Calaveras and do a proper tasting...

Ryan,

Thats great feedback. What freaked you out most? The fact that people actually spend large periods of time dressing and interacting in a fake world? :p Yeah it is all a little strange.

But everything new is!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Jeff,</p>
<p>Great shots. I need to get up to Calaveras and do a proper tasting&#8230;</p>
<p>Ryan,</p>
<p>Thats great feedback. What freaked you out most? The fact that people actually spend large periods of time dressing and interacting in a fake world? :p Yeah it is all a little strange.</p>
<p>But everything new is!</p>
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		<title>By: Sagi Solomon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sagi Solomon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 16 Nov 2006 19:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh. Your stepping into Second Life is definitely novel.  I commend you for taking advantage of all the new mediums for getting your customers involved.

However, I'll admit that the future you describe scares me a little.  I like to think that everything we do online we do to better our real lives.  I hope that doesn't change. I still like drinking wines with friends and visiting tasting rooms.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh. Your stepping into Second Life is definitely novel.  I commend you for taking advantage of all the new mediums for getting your customers involved.</p>
<p>However, I&#8217;ll admit that the future you describe scares me a little.  I like to think that everything we do online we do to better our real lives.  I hope that doesn&#8217;t change. I still like drinking wines with friends and visiting tasting rooms.</p>
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