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	<description>A blog about starting and building a family winery in the Russian River Valley</description>
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		<title>By: Julia</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/04/11/precision-viticulture-for-small-vineyards/#comment-26242</link>
		<dc:creator>Julia</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 May 2007 20:22:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi there Josh!
Just to say that im loving ure blog on the use of PV. Im a student from Scotland coming over to the states to study the use of GIS with viticulture in Walla Walla, Washington. What you wrote gave me good insight into the benefits of using such information systems and your enthusiasm made it a pleasure to read. Keep up the good work now :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi there Josh!<br />
Just to say that im loving ure blog on the use of PV. Im a student from Scotland coming over to the states to study the use of GIS with viticulture in Walla Walla, Washington. What you wrote gave me good insight into the benefits of using such information systems and your enthusiasm made it a pleasure to read. Keep up the good work now <img src='http://www.pinotblogger.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Precision Viticulture Controversy &#187; Pinotblogger: the Capozzi Winery blog</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/04/11/precision-viticulture-for-small-vineyards/#comment-21694</link>
		<dc:creator>Precision Viticulture Controversy &#187; Pinotblogger: the Capozzi Winery blog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 21:54:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/04/11/precision-viticulture-for-small-vineyards/#comment-21673</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:12:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Brad,

You're right, we could all save quite a bit by banding together to purchase PV tools and data. Part of the problem is one of perception however, as Morgan points out. There are plenty of farmers that feel they have a handle on managing variation already, so this isn't a point of pain.

Also there are license issues with having more than one person use software, though I think the risks are pretty low (and the software is freakin overpriced if you ask me).

Finally, I did go ahead and purchase a domain just in case I ever have some free time to set up an online community devoted to group purchases of remote sensing data. The url is PrecisionVit.com and perhaps someday it will be a place where wine growers can gather to collectively purchase arial photos and the like.

Thanks for the comment!

lagram,

No April Fools here!

Again, its not laziness that's driving me to use PV (quite the opposite!), nor is it that I'm averse to walking the vineyard. I walk it every day, strolling around with the boy and measuring shoot lengths. The reason I'm enamored with PV is that I can quantify what I'm seeing and do it much more precisely than with simple "ocular regression" techniques.

We wouldn't dream of making wine without measuring, so why are we so content to farm without measuring? Besides, in the grand scheme of things $4500 bucks isn't much money at all when you are talking about trying to produce the best possible grapes. At least that's my thinking.

Thanks for the comment and best of luck over there in the Old World!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Brad,</p>
<p>You&#8217;re right, we could all save quite a bit by banding together to purchase PV tools and data. Part of the problem is one of perception however, as Morgan points out. There are plenty of farmers that feel they have a handle on managing variation already, so this isn&#8217;t a point of pain.</p>
<p>Also there are license issues with having more than one person use software, though I think the risks are pretty low (and the software is freakin overpriced if you ask me).</p>
<p>Finally, I did go ahead and purchase a domain just in case I ever have some free time to set up an online community devoted to group purchases of remote sensing data. The url is PrecisionVit.com and perhaps someday it will be a place where wine growers can gather to collectively purchase arial photos and the like.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment!</p>
<p>lagram,</p>
<p>No April Fools here!</p>
<p>Again, its not laziness that&#8217;s driving me to use PV (quite the opposite!), nor is it that I&#8217;m averse to walking the vineyard. I walk it every day, strolling around with the boy and measuring shoot lengths. The reason I&#8217;m enamored with PV is that I can quantify what I&#8217;m seeing and do it much more precisely than with simple &#8220;ocular regression&#8221; techniques.</p>
<p>We wouldn&#8217;t dream of making wine without measuring, so why are we so content to farm without measuring? Besides, in the grand scheme of things $4500 bucks isn&#8217;t much money at all when you are talking about trying to produce the best possible grapes. At least that&#8217;s my thinking.</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment and best of luck over there in the Old World!</p>
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		<title>By: lagramiere</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/04/11/precision-viticulture-for-small-vineyards/#comment-21672</link>
		<dc:creator>lagramiere</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 18:11:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, ever consider spending more time walking around your vineyards? 17 acres isn't that much ground to cover.  Human observation can be quite useful,  much cheaper and it's much more pleasant to spend your time in the vineyards than in front of your computer... Just a thought, from a simple grape farmer. I'll admit I scrolled up to the top of the post to check the date, making sure it this wasn't another April fools post.  I guess we're just in two different worlds.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, ever consider spending more time walking around your vineyards? 17 acres isn&#8217;t that much ground to cover.  Human observation can be quite useful,  much cheaper and it&#8217;s much more pleasant to spend your time in the vineyards than in front of your computer&#8230; Just a thought, from a simple grape farmer. I&#8217;ll admit I scrolled up to the top of the post to check the date, making sure it this wasn&#8217;t another April fools post.  I guess we&#8217;re just in two different worlds.</p>
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		<title>By: Brad Maier</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/04/11/precision-viticulture-for-small-vineyards/#comment-21588</link>
		<dc:creator>Brad Maier</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Apr 2007 03:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Josh,

Just wanted to say I really enjoy the site and that this is the first time I've had an idea to comment with. Why not group together with other small vineyards and purchase the software together and rotate its use? Seems like it would defer the costs and since GIS is not necessarily something you'd be using constantly, it would be something that vineyards could schedule time with.  Maybe you can even consult to the other vineyards in your group using it with your newfound GIS knowledge from the immersion classes.  I don't know, thought it was worth a shot.

-Brad
http://vinobandito.blogspot.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Josh,</p>
<p>Just wanted to say I really enjoy the site and that this is the first time I&#8217;ve had an idea to comment with. Why not group together with other small vineyards and purchase the software together and rotate its use? Seems like it would defer the costs and since GIS is not necessarily something you&#8217;d be using constantly, it would be something that vineyards could schedule time with.  Maybe you can even consult to the other vineyards in your group using it with your newfound GIS knowledge from the immersion classes.  I don&#8217;t know, thought it was worth a shot.</p>
<p>-Brad<br />
<a href="http://vinobandito.blogspot.com" rel="nofollow">http://vinobandito.blogspot.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:38:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I've heard this before believe me. But I think PV in a small vineyard situation where we will be charging around $50 a bottle is warranted.

Plus you really need to come out here and see the vineyard. Its a series of hills and valleys with point rows and variation everywhere. We have temp differentials of 4 degrees F in 20 x 40 foot blocks. Its crazy.

So while I trust Robledo (our vineyard managers) I don;t think that anyone, without the aid of lots of data, could every really get a handle on what is happening out in the vineyard without doing some careful measuring. Thus the use of PV.

It the fuuuuuture Morgan! Don't be scared!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ve heard this before believe me. But I think PV in a small vineyard situation where we will be charging around $50 a bottle is warranted.</p>
<p>Plus you really need to come out here and see the vineyard. Its a series of hills and valleys with point rows and variation everywhere. We have temp differentials of 4 degrees F in 20 x 40 foot blocks. Its crazy.</p>
<p>So while I trust Robledo (our vineyard managers) I don;t think that anyone, without the aid of lots of data, could every really get a handle on what is happening out in the vineyard without doing some careful measuring. Thus the use of PV.</p>
<p>It the fuuuuuture Morgan! Don&#8217;t be scared!</p>
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		<title>By: Morgan Twain-Peterson</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/04/11/precision-viticulture-for-small-vineyards/#comment-21549</link>
		<dc:creator>Morgan Twain-Peterson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 21:32:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am not convinced man.  I can understand the possible need for something like this in a large vineyard with many swoops and swales (i am thinking of beringer's huge vineyard on the sonoma side of the petaluma gap), but in a small vineyard aren't most of the functions provided unnecessary and/or simply what a good vineyard person should be able to do and know?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am not convinced man.  I can understand the possible need for something like this in a large vineyard with many swoops and swales (i am thinking of beringer&#8217;s huge vineyard on the sonoma side of the petaluma gap), but in a small vineyard aren&#8217;t most of the functions provided unnecessary and/or simply what a good vineyard person should be able to do and know?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://www.pinotblogger.com/2007/04/11/precision-viticulture-for-small-vineyards/#comment-21452</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Apr 2007 04:41:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Randy,

Thanks for the comment! Let me know if you do go this route and how it all works out. Also, please drop me a line if you find any other equipment that fills in any gaps I didn't cover.

Thanks again for the kind words.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Randy,</p>
<p>Thanks for the comment! Let me know if you do go this route and how it all works out. Also, please drop me a line if you find any other equipment that fills in any gaps I didn&#8217;t cover.</p>
<p>Thanks again for the kind words.</p>
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		<title>By: Randy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Randy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 11 Apr 2007 22:32:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh,

That is FREAKING awesome what you've worked out. I'm now thinking I need to have a conversation with our vineyard manager and see what he thinks of this. Considering I am a hard-core wine geek and high-techie to boot, I'm jazzed to see the footwork you did on this.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh,</p>
<p>That is FREAKING awesome what you&#8217;ve worked out. I&#8217;m now thinking I need to have a conversation with our vineyard manager and see what he thinks of this. Considering I am a hard-core wine geek and high-techie to boot, I&#8217;m jazzed to see the footwork you did on this.</p>
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