Comments on: California Wine: The Final Synchronized Flush http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/ A blog about starting and building a family winery in the Russian River Valley Fri, 08 Aug 2008 01:14:07 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: conseco insurance http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-116056 conseco insurance Sun, 27 Jul 2008 01:59:46 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-116056 <strong>conseco insurance...</strong> armload,germane curvaceous,profoundest cartilage,incendiary ... conseco insurance…

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]]> By: Noble Pig http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-105971 Noble Pig Sun, 25 May 2008 13:42:49 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-105971 I read this article and was just floored. Was she looking for some type of odd-delivered publicity? What a nut. I read this article and was just floored. Was she looking for some type of odd-delivered publicity? What a nut.

]]> By: Henri Vasnier http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-104361 Henri Vasnier Wed, 14 May 2008 03:13:02 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-104361 One fears that Alice is merely another relentless self-promoter cum gigantic ego. But I'd be the first to say that if she doesn't like California wines, she shouldn't drink them. She will miss a fair number of memorable wines, but I too miss a fair number of memorable wines by not trying too hard to fine the wheat amongst the 92% chaff in many, many French and other categories. The first rule of wine tasting is: "if you like it, it's good." Necessarily, the first corollary is that if you don't care for it, drink something else. One fears that Alice is merely another relentless self-promoter cum gigantic ego. But I’d be the first to say that if she doesn’t like California wines, she shouldn’t drink them. She will miss a fair number of memorable wines, but I too miss a fair number of memorable wines by not trying too hard to fine the wheat amongst the 92% chaff in many, many French and other categories. The first rule of wine tasting is: “if you like it, it’s good.” Necessarily, the first corollary is that if you don’t care for it, drink something else.

]]> By: Tim http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-104358 Tim Wed, 14 May 2008 01:40:36 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-104358 How nice of you to actually read what Alice has to say. I find her irrelevant and annoying and as such I no longer read her drivel. That said, if you did switch to Thompson Seedless I have a feeling you'd produce some of the best table grapes in California. How nice of you to actually read what Alice has to say. I find her irrelevant and annoying and as such I no longer read her drivel.

That said, if you did switch to Thompson Seedless I have a feeling you’d produce some of the best table grapes in California.

]]> By: Morgan http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-104316 Morgan Tue, 13 May 2008 15:31:19 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-104316 Sweet Alice. Trying to hit flies with a baseball bat again. If she spent a little time actually studying the California wine-market instead of trying to find bottles of cloudy Clos Roche Blanche Pineau D'Aunis, she might see the examples of winemakers making more and more finely tempered wines. Palmina, Copain, Peay, are just three that quickly jump to mind. And for all of her reductionist arguments regarding technology in California (no pun intended), she quickly forgets that Bordeaux and Burgundy are two of the greatest offenders when it comes to manipulative wine techniques. Vacuum-drum concentrators and RO machines have become standard at the great estates in Bordeaux since the early 90's. Burgundians have been playing the trick-trade since the beginning of time. It is a shame because that "ocean of wine" that she feels is awful might contain some pleasant suprises if her mindset went a little beyond her fifth story perch in a Manhattan walk-up. Sweet Alice. Trying to hit flies with a baseball bat again. If she spent a little time actually studying the California wine-market instead of trying to find bottles of cloudy Clos Roche Blanche Pineau D’Aunis, she might see the examples of winemakers making more and more finely tempered wines. Palmina, Copain, Peay, are just three that quickly jump to mind.

And for all of her reductionist arguments regarding technology in California (no pun intended), she quickly forgets that Bordeaux and Burgundy are two of the greatest offenders when it comes to manipulative wine techniques. Vacuum-drum concentrators and RO machines have become standard at the great estates in Bordeaux since the early 90’s. Burgundians have been playing the trick-trade since the beginning of time.

It is a shame because that “ocean of wine” that she feels is awful might contain some pleasant suprises if her mindset went a little beyond her fifth story perch in a Manhattan walk-up.

]]> By: Taster B http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-104260 Taster B Mon, 12 May 2008 17:58:39 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-104260 Thanks for linking back to the Asimov post--hilarious! Good luck with the table grape crop (damn those claymation raisins and their synonymousness with California)! Thanks for linking back to the Asimov post–hilarious! Good luck with the table grape crop (damn those claymation raisins and their synonymousness with California)!

]]> By: Dave Tong http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-104152 Dave Tong Sun, 11 May 2008 21:33:00 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-104152 There's a great quote in that article: "She has never followed the fashion; she has stayed true to her mission. There aren't many like her around.". Yes there are, Alice. It's just that you're not going to find them at a big New York wine tasting. Last night I was at a dinner where we poured around a dozen Pinots made by the late Duane Cronin. A magnum of 1980 from the Ventana vineyard in Monterey county was excellent. A magnum of 1995 Santa Cruz Mountains Pinot had yet to reach its peak. Ripe (but not overripe) fruit, good acidity, lower alcohol and judicious use of oak. It's not rocket science. Lots of people in the Santa Cruz Mountains are doing it, and elsewhere too. But you have to come to them, they won't come to you. If Ms Feiring spent half as much time looking for good wines from California as she seems to do from France she'd soon change her tune. There’s a great quote in that article: “She has never followed the fashion; she has stayed true to her mission. There aren’t many like her around.”. Yes there are, Alice. It’s just that you’re not going to find them at a big New York wine tasting.

Last night I was at a dinner where we poured around a dozen Pinots made by the late Duane Cronin. A magnum of 1980 from the Ventana vineyard in Monterey county was excellent. A magnum of 1995 Santa Cruz Mountains Pinot had yet to reach its peak. Ripe (but not overripe) fruit, good acidity, lower alcohol and judicious use of oak. It’s not rocket science. Lots of people in the Santa Cruz Mountains are doing it, and elsewhere too.

But you have to come to them, they won’t come to you. If Ms Feiring spent half as much time looking for good wines from California as she seems to do from France she’d soon change her tune.

]]> By: Richard Shaffer http://www.pinotblogger.com/2008/05/09/california-wine-the-final-synchronized-flush/#comment-104052 Richard Shaffer Sun, 11 May 2008 02:01:20 +0000 http://www.pinotblogger.com/?p=386#comment-104052 She should consider moving to France on a permanent basis. You should call and tell her this, Josh! Richard She should consider moving to France on a permanent basis. You should call and tell her this, Josh!

Richard

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