What is a Twitter follower worth to a winery? What is a blog post worth? What is its cost? What does a comment signify for your brand?
As a firm believer in the power of social media as a way for my proto-winery to create relationships with folks who might one day buy my wine, I’ve been disappointed at the lack of rigor many in the industry are applying to their social media efforts.
Even the guys who “get” it, the software and web developers who are enabling wineries to track the online chatter and engage, aren’t building into their systems an easy way for wineries to measure social media’s ability to meet objectives.
Some of the objectives are la-la woo-woo, granted. How do you measure brand affection? No clue here either. But owners and marketers drool over the type of brand affection that, say, Apple has because of one thing: it sells products! And they know it sells products because they measure it.
And you can too. It’s easier than ever to do it online.
Instead of boring you with theory and formulas, let me just tell you my story.
Pinotblogger and the Bankers
I recently presented my business plan to a Senior VP at a local bank specializing in wineries. The economy is in the crapper, uncertainty is high, and so you might be forgiven for thinking that now is the worst. time. ever. to spend a lot of money on a capital intensive process like building out a winery.
But you’d be wrong. Dead wrong. Prices on materials are the lowest they’ve been in a decade. Interest rates are the lowest they will ever be (the Fed can’t go below zero – at least I think they can’t). The SBA program has waived all their fees for the year, and you can roll capital purchases (tanks, presses etc.) into the building loan if you qualify. Demand is there, and quantifiable, due to Capozzi being a social media success in the wine space.
By the time construction is completed, say next spring fall, we’re still 18 months from a release. By the time we are ready to sell, my bet is – and most other economists are with me on this – we will be well into the recovery phase of the downturn.
Or maybe you believe Obama is actually an alien sent here to sate the masses into socialistic complacency and to pave the way to the complete enslavement of the human race by a new ruling class of martian overlords.
Either way, its still a darn good time to make tasty drinks that make you feel funny.
Now is the perfect time to build a winery.
The Narrative and the Numbers
The above is the narrative, and it’s a very good one. But it’s still just a narrative. And in terms of how wineries go about measuring the value of social media, that’s about as far as they go: a narrative of how interactions are happening. We’re on Twitter! And we have followers!
What is missing is a clear enumeration of the objectives. Me, I want to sell wine. Since I haven’t yet, I use other metrics to help me determine how successful my Adventures in Social Media have been. They aren’t complicated, but they require me to know what I want to measure, to actually measure it, and to do an analysis of what works and what doesn’t.
Here is a simple, but very illustrative example. We’ve had over 1200 sign-ups to our inaugural vintage mailing list. Growing this list is my single most important objective online. I’m going to be going direct after all. There is nothing else that even comes close.
This is my 349th post to pinotblogger. That means, on average, each time I post I earn 3.5 potential customers. Taking this analysis a step further (and I have) I can project how many on the list will buy, and what their average purchase over a year will be. I take this number, multiply it by 3.5 and – boom! – thats how much a post to pinotblogger is worth, on average. Subtract my time (which I can choose to value however I want, since I’m not paying anyone to write for me) and the monthly hosting fees and I have a pretty clear picture, much more than just a guess, of what kind of value I’m getting from blogging (note: there is much more to this – lifetime value of a customer, building loyalty etc.).
Word of mouth should be treated the same way: you must walk back the cat – all the way! – to an objective. It could be a speaking appearance at a conference, it could be a consulting gig, or it could be part of a strategy to ratchet up coverage of your winery to more widely read media. And then the process starts again for each of those intermediate objectives. What did you want to accomplish? Did you meet those objectives?
If you aren’t measuring and tracking your social media, then you’re treating it like advertising. And advertising is all about the number of impressions. If you do view things this way it leads to two key implications due to the limited reach of social media vs. mass media, neither of them good:
1. It will take a long time for your social media advertising to build up enough intent in your target audience for you to see any lift (forgive my slack-jawed decent into 20th century advertising jargon).
2. You’ll become the worst possible thing in the entire marketing world: a spammer. You’ll be pounding your keyboard in some neanderthal attempt to get lift by increasing impressions on a small group of viewers. Your followers will hate you, you’ll hate yourself and eventually you’ll want to take your toaster in the bath.
There’s more to say, but not right now. Right now I have to get back to polishing my business plan. But if you found this post useful and want more, feel free to drop me a line. josh@pinotblogger.com.

John Kelly
6 months ago
Yes, absolutely. But you left out one factor: the dreaded “divide by 10.” In my experience the thousands of sign-ups a new venture gets before they release product translate into hundreds of actual buyers. You can never let up on bringing in new interest, and keep in touch with the contacts you already have.
In my opinion (and I’m hardly a frickin marketing genius, with a frickin laser beam on my forehead) online and social media are a great way to leverage your great personality to maintain the dialog with the people 1) interested in your wine and 2) in sharing – maybe even being a part of – your story.
Seems to me that today’s wine buyer (for little craft brands, anyway) is looking for an engaging experience above and beyond what’s in the glass, and the online presence enriches that experience. Guess that’s the la-la woo-woo part. Tough to apply metrics.
So yeah – I ‘m interested to see how you come at your metrics. My bankers and investors are going to be asking me the same questions sooner or later.
Josh Hermsmeyer
6 months ago
Hi John,
The formula I use isn’t as draconian as “divide by 10″ but certainly it isn’t some pie in the sky 100% of sign ups will purchase.
The real point though, in my opinion, is that the process itself is taking place. Right now, from what I’ve seen after talking with lots of wineries, is that the process of defining objectives and measuring social media’s impact on meeting them just isn’t happening.
What you outline above is the narrative, which is great. But la-la woo-woo must, at some point, translate into something tangible. It’s up to the winery to put processes in place to measure that. And with clickstream data and clearly defined objectives a winery can determine exactly where orders, sign-ups and other measurable bottom line activities are coming from.
Thanks for the conversation!
Dr. Horowitz
6 months ago
Dude, you could have spent at least another hour talking about marketing metrics in the Intro to Wine Blogging seminar at SSU!
alan
6 months ago
Josh,
Great info! I was wondering if you had applied your model for sales to any other type of business or service in my case?
Richard Beaudin
6 months ago
Alan … great start on a discussion that could go on and on. Whether your assumptions are spot on or not is somewhat irrelevant – your basic assumptions are sound and your emphasis on metrics and meeting objectives when it comes to social media are essential. Keep everyone up to date as you move closer to release.
Ellen Roberts
6 months ago
Interesting one of the most successful uses of new media was strictly old school.
The Murphy Goode blogger search got them at least 60k worth of free publicity and continued to the associate the brand with being hip (as opposed to being owned by a corporate giant)
Josh Hermsmeyer
6 months ago
Hi Ellen,
Thanks for the comment!
Not sure how one could argue that Murphy Goode’s campaign was old school though…
If you mean that people are calling it a success because old media picked up on it, and that they got “earned media”, hey that’s all part of the strategy!
But getting people to submit videos, and having folks voting on them to capture emails etc., thats very new media.
Thanks again for the comment and the conversation! Love the market!
Ellen Roberts
6 months ago
Thanks for providing such a great place to have the conversation.
It will be interesting to see how the Murphy Goode contest works out.
jason
5 months ago
Great post. I’m in the agency business by day and many treat social media as a check box on a list that they want to tick off. So next time the boss ask they can say they are “doing” social media. That is a waste of time. Social media is a tactic to be used that need to tie back to a higher level business strategy…