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By: Noah Dorrance

Noah Dorrance — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 15:22:34 +0000

Josh- Fantastic concept and excellent initial reviews. The inclusion of so many data points is a brilliant idea. I especially like the lab analysis. Questions: how can we get this model to scale even a little bit? Will you taste more than one wine per session or are you just reviewing one at a time?

Keep up the great work.

By: Tommy Ronquillo

Tommy Ronquillo — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 09:04:27 +0000

Josh, best wine review I’ve seen to date. I personally don’t care for wine point’s like many people in the business but I also sell wine for a small distributor and points do help to a certain extent as you already know but we got so fed up with some buyers asking for highly rated wines, as a joke we started rating all our wines 100 points. For an experiment we made a 100 point shelf talkers for an inexpensive $10 NV California Red Blend and to my surprise the wine has sold very very well, I guess the point I’m trying to make is if the wine sucked nobody would have repurchased it but we have a wine shop in LA who buys 20 cases every two to three weeks. I don’t think it’s the points that have people coming back to buy more bottles. On another note I love 100 point rated rose, 1998 Lopez de Heredia Gran Reserva Rosado is tops in my book. Mahalo!

By: El Jefe

El Jefe — Thu, 05 Nov 2009 00:08:01 +0000

hmmm… Technically, to be double blind, your wife would have to also not know what she is pouring for you. So Traverso’s would have to transfer the wine to a generic bottle and closure. Right?

Whatever, you do, please don’t use up all your points. I hear bad things happen when you do that…

By: Blake Gray

Blake Gray — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 17:00:40 +0000

Josh: To be in the same sentence with Jancis Robinson is high praise, and I humbly thank you for it.

By: Josh Hermsmeyer

Josh Hermsmeyer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:15:02 +0000

Thanks for the kind words Evan. Like you I’m no point lover either, but I’ve kind of come to believe that it was more a response to the reductionist school of wine criticism than anything to do with points themselves. Give me lots of optional info, story and context and I’ll be happy to see a score at the top.

Thanks again

By: Josh Hermsmeyer

Josh Hermsmeyer — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 05:12:06 +0000

I’ll check it out and leave a comment Josh. Thanks for reading!

By: Evan Dawson

Evan Dawson — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 03:11:26 +0000

Josh – I have actively railed against hard and fast point scoring systems for wine, precisely for many of the reasons that you eloquently outlined. However, I can be swayed that points can work. And you are swaying me. Never thought I’d dig a score on a wine but you’ve fit it into a combination of objectivity and subjectivity, story and context. And yeah, I’m digging it. Cheers.

By: Josh Davis

Josh Davis — Wed, 04 Nov 2009 02:25:12 +0000

I am actively trying to create a new way of rating that involves giving a wine drinker relevant recommendations based of previous wines they have rated and their location. I would love to know your thoughts. The site is BestHouseWine.com we are just getting off the ground but have high ambitions for a new paradigm of recommending wines and using ratings.

Cheers

Josh

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